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energy beings on the Internet
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David Dalton
2012-11-03 05:39:51 UTC
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Do you think there is any chance yet that energy beings
have evolved on or are visiting the Internet, or
that the Internet itself might become conscious?

In the books of William Gibson I think humans plugged
in to the net but were there also non-human energy
beings that evolved on or visited the net, in his
books? It has been a while since I read one.
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Jos Bergervoet
2012-11-03 10:11:22 UTC
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Post by David Dalton
Do you think there is any chance yet that energy beings
have evolved on or are visiting the Internet,
Apparently you mean that we (the normal stardust
beings) do not qualify? Then what should they be
made of?

No baryonic matter allowed, I presume. It seems
reasonable then, to also exclude dark matter beings.
Of course there's more dark matter than baryonic
matter, so they surely might be visiting internet,
but if *we* can't be called energy beings, then
they don't deserve the title either!

If we just look at the possibilities:
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clearly your most likely candidates are "dark energy
beings!" Because 3 quarters of our universe consists
of dark energy, and also because we can infer the
presence of dark energy from interactions between
other beings on the internet.
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Jos
Stephen Allcroft
2012-11-22 15:11:07 UTC
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Post by Jos Bergervoet
Post by David Dalton
Do you think there is any chance yet that energy beings
have evolved on or are visiting the Internet,
Apparently you mean that we (the normal stardust
beings) do not qualify? Then what should they be
made of?
No baryonic matter allowed, I presume. It seems
reasonable then, to also exclude dark matter beings.
Of course there's more dark matter than baryonic
matter, so they surely might be visiting internet,
but if *we* can't be called energy beings, then
they don't deserve the title either!
   http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/DarkMatterPie.jpg
clearly your most likely candidates are "dark energy
beings!" Because 3 quarters of our universe consists
of dark energy, and also because we can infer the
presence of dark energy from interactions between
other beings on the internet.
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Jos
How would we be able to tell?

Remember Wittgenstein's lion paradox...
Jos Bergervoet
2012-11-22 18:51:52 UTC
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On 11/22/2012 4:11 PM, Stephen Allcroft wrote:
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Post by Jos Bergervoet
reasonable then, to also exclude dark matter beings.
Of course there's more dark matter than baryonic
matter, so they surely might be visiting internet,
but if *we* can't be called energy beings, then
they don't deserve the title either!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/DarkMatterPie.jpg
clearly your most likely candidates are "dark energy
beings!" Because 3 quarters of our universe consists
of dark energy, and also because we can infer the
presence of dark energy from interactions between
other beings on the internet.
How would we be able to tell?
accelerated expansion is a sure sign. (And
you can't deny that for the internet there's
ample proof of this!)
Post by Stephen Allcroft
Remember Wittgenstein's lion paradox...
That was before it all started..
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Jos
Stephen Allcroft
2012-12-11 15:27:30 UTC
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Post by Jos Bergervoet
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Post by Stephen Allcroft
Post by Jos Bergervoet
reasonable then, to also exclude dark matter beings.
Of course there's more dark matter than baryonic
matter, so they surely might be visiting internet,
but if *we* can't be called energy beings, then
they don't deserve the title either!
   http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/DarkMatterPie.jpg
clearly your most likely candidates are "dark energy
beings!" Because 3 quarters of our universe consists
of dark energy, and also because we can infer the
presence of dark energy from interactions between
other beings on the internet.
How would we be able to tell?
accelerated expansion is a sure sign. (And
you can't deny that for the internet there's
ample proof of this!)
No it's not a sure sign, moore's law explains the expansion; you are
multiplying causes: bad in logic
Post by Jos Bergervoet
Post by Stephen Allcroft
Remember Wittgenstein's lion paradox...
That was before it all started..
So was William of Ockham.
Post by Jos Bergervoet
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Jos
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